Auriel's bow arrows will go nowhere
Always gladly taken again - the most common and complex problemthat every archer has to deal with in the course of his "career" - quite often.
In traditional intuitive archery, it (almost) does not matter at what distance and at what type of "target" you are shooting when you discover this problem. You can shoot targets at 30 m or nail your arrows into the landscape next to your 3D animal at a distance of 15 m. At distances of less than 10 m it becomes more difficult to analyze because your arrow is usually not finished waving.
We assume that you
- You can already practice archery more or less traditionally and / or have passed a course, training and at least know the basics of archery.
- Have your own equipment, if possible no rental equipment (Everything rarely fits together and too much changes).
If this is not the case, the following explanations won't really help you either.
The basic question
- Does the problem always arise, from the beginning, with all the arrows?
- Did everything still work satisfactorily at the last shooting?
(We'll cover this point below)
The problem always occurs
The good news first - it can be solved!
Only if all Arrows, not just isolated, constant (!) tend to group (hit) too far left or right, this analysis makes sense. Either you yourself always and consistently do the same (wrong) or a certain component is not in order.
It all indicates that your Set up not true. The setup affects yours arc and the ones used Arrows as well as your personal Shooting style. Are rarer Difficulty concentrating and your eyes the cause of this problem.
As a rule, only one factor is the cause here!
Let's take it step by step:
Have you adjusted the height of your bow correctly? If this is not at least approximately correct, it can definitely have a negative impact on the hit position. At this point we will not go into detail on the subject. You can read that at Stand height in ourBasics for beginners, further down in this article under "The Stand Height" and in our article Arrow too hard, arrow too soft - the spine.
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Stand to the goal / basic position
You may be wrong to aim. You can read how to do this correctly at the point initial position in ourBasics for beginners.
As a trial, you can change your stance by placing your foot, which is closer to the target, a few centimeters forwards or backwards or simply focusing a little in the other direction than your arrows hit. This may solve the problem in the short term, but it is not a permanent solution and obscures other possible causes.
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Hold the bow / hold the bow
Each type of bow requires in a certain way a different grip in the bow, in the grip piece. A recurve bow is held very loosely, actually not at all, a longbow, on the other hand, tighter. You can find out what this is all about under the point Grasp the bow in our Basics for beginners.
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Your anchor point, wherever it is with you, should above all always be the same and in your face in a line that relates to the eye. With traditional archers this is usually the Middle finger of the pulling hand in the corner of the mouth and ideally also the second thumb joint on the earlobe.
If your anchor point is correctly positioned and the rest of the pull-out behavior is correct, if you look at it from above, the The tip of the elbow of the pull arm, the anchor point and the arrowhead form a continuous straight line. That is the ideal case. If you now Not anchored in your face (corner of your mouth), but a little away from your face in the free universe, then you create a kink in this line. This means that the arrow is deflected to the left for right-handed shooters and to the right for left-handed shooters.
You can read that too in our Basics for beginners under the point Anchor (point).
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After you've reached your anchor point, you should do the Back tension build up. The sense and purpose of back tension is, on the one hand, that you relieve the fingers of your pulling hand. In this way, you redirect the applied tensile force to the upper back muscles and this makes it easier to loosen them properly (see next point). On the other hand, you optimize the desirable straight line from the elbow via the anchor point to the arrowhead (see above under Anchor point). This will avoid distracting your arrow.
You can read that too in our Basics for beginners under the point Back tension.
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Solving bug / bad release
This happens to the most experienced archers, to everyone, from time to time. But then they know immediately what's going on.
You have exhaled, focus on your goal, pull the bow (the tendon) out to the anchor point, pause at this point for 1 - 2 seconds, during this time you still go into the back tension, stay with both eyes on your goal and then you let go of the string (now you can breathe again). This letting go is what is called To solve, also called release. You have to let the tendon do what it wants and also should - just snap forward and speed up the arrow. This loosening must be a passive process, you just open your fingers.
if you actively solves, the direction of the chord and thus that of the arrow is changed. Actively solve can be when you pull your hand back when you let go. This changes the direction that the tendon actually needs for a fraction of a second, twisting the bow. If only by a few millimeters. These millimeters are very quickly a few centimeters on your target. RH archers (pulling with the right hand) then tear the string back to the right, which means that the arrow at the front of the bow is deflected to the left. So hit too far to the left. As always, it is the other way around for LH shooters.
It is similar when you remove the tendon with braking effect lets "slide" off your shooting glove, i.e. lets the tendon rub over your fingertips (sounds good, doesn't it?), as if you weren't quite sure whether you really wanted to let go. In doing so, you twist the tendon inward. When the tendon then snaps forward, it wants to unwind again and transfers this rotary movement to the nock of the arrow and then turns it away from the bow window or the arrow rest. RH shooters hit the left again, LH shooters vice versa.
Actively solve but it is also when you "give one" to the tendon. This means that your pulling hand goes forward with you and you only open your fingers during this movement. A process as if you still wanted to push the arrow with force. With active loosening, pretty much anything can happen as far as the direction of impact is concerned. That cannot be deduced.
Small approach: When actively loosening, you also change your anchor point!
The topic To solve we also deal with ours Basics for beginners under Solve and follow up.
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You cannot fully concentrate on the target object. You may have problems with color contrasts that are too strong or too weak, or you are too easily distracted by other objects and colors. Or, which often happens, you have problems with complementary colors (you have to guuuugln, that's too much for here). For instinctive archers, the normal FITA targets, the ones with the blue, red and yellow rings, are not ideal either. It's too distracting. If any discs, it is best to use black with a yellow or white point. Just try using other colors in your goals.
I know someone there - well, admittedly, it's me who can not green. We occasionally shoot balloons. Regardless of whether on a dark or light background, you can poke balloons in all colors, sizes, and at all possible distances somewhere. They're all getting their fat. But - the chance of survival of a green balloon is almost 100%. I admit it is difficult not to hit a green balloon at all when you attach 25 pieces, each 20 cm in diameter, to a 100 x 100 cm disc.
A tip from a mental trainer helped me: "Just imagine that he's red". It actually works. When I think about that.
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The subject of eyes
Yours Eyes play a very crucial role in archery and especially in traditional intuitive archery. We have dedicated a separate article to this topic, which fills the entire format. Read more here Eyes and handedness in archery.
In our courses that is the very first point to be clarified with a student. This should already have been checked for you by a trainer, instructor or specialist dealer. Therefore we assume at this point that this is not the cause of the left or right deviation of your arrows.
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Twisting the tendon (unlikely)
Especially with recurve bows, especially with the take downs with their heavy center pieces and comparatively light limbs, it is possible to lose the tendon through incorrect posture and incorrect pull-out behavior asymmetrical to the limbs pulling out, i.e. you twist the bow - which during the loosening process, however, wags back to its "straight" original position - in relation to the tendon.
Here, too, it is not possible to make any reliable predictions about the likely runway of the arrow. In any case, he won't meet. However, this case is rather unrealistic, because you would always have to twist the tendon evenly in order to always achieve the bad result equally badly.
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If it wasn't already and you haven't found a solution, now it gets a little more complicated
If the above attempts failed and your arrows still work constant (!) tend to group on the left, then they react - with right-handers / right-hand shooters (bow in the left hand) - too hard, too rigid, i.e. the spine value is too low. If they turn to the right, they behave as if they were too soft, too flexible, the spine value is apparently too high. The reverse applies to left-handed / left-handed shooters (bow in the right hand).
In other words - your arrows don't match!
You bought some equipment - bow and arrows.
Do you have it before or after a course or bought an apprenticeship?
It makes more sense to use a bow and arrow first after a (first) course to buy. In your course, a dedicated and skilled instructor can easily determine which one Arch type with which Draw weight ... is best for you. He should also be able to calculate the right arrows for you in terms of the spine value. They may also be able to recommend a bow and arrows, or at least a qualified dealer, or get you the parts. After that, the instructor could adjust and adjust each component properly until it suits you and your shooting style.
Did you buy your gear before you did a first class, it is much more difficult (sometimes unfortunately also impossible) to make an adjustment, unless everything fits by chance (unlikely). But that should at least roughly fit if you have been to a specialist retailer - with intensive advice and adjustments. If your bow, and especially your arrows, are from a retailer, go there and ask them to help you solve the problem. Or your instructor can make the adjustments to your course. He should be able to do that. With a high degree of certainty your arrows have a wrong dynamic spine. For beginners, the possibilities of influencing the spine value themselves are quite limited. However, a few things can also be done without great effort. You can check out our article Arrow too hard, arrow too soft - the spine to inform.
Do you have your equipment thrown together on the Internet or bought without advice?
Then you don't need to go to a specialist dealer, because they will clearly show you where the exit is. An instructor, if he is willing, may then still be able to save what can be saved. But don't be disappointed if he tells you: "First the good news - you can keep the bow".
Only when the bow, arrows and you go together can one determine whether the left or right hit is due to the incorrectly adjusted equipment or whether one of the points mentioned is the cause.
Last time everything worked fine
If you have this problem from one time to the other, either you haven't shot for a long time or "something" changed!
You haven't shot in a while
May have your was standing, your Grasp the bow, your Pull-out behavior, your Anchor, your Release (Loosen) not yet set as you (correctly) did it the last time you shot. It might have Negligence (e.g. lack of back tension) and error crept in or you simply forgot about them Stand height to adjust your bow correctly. By the way, one of the main reasons!
These factors each have a certain influence on the Spine value, on the dynamic spine of your arrows.
Also the one that may still be missing concentration you should practice again on your goal. Often it is also due to the speedyou shoot with. Take your time!
Especially after a long break (winter period), bows with a high proportion of wood (long bows, self bows ...) should be allowed a certain period of regeneration until they have all their usual properties again. Until the "Stangerl" is fit again, it can be a bit twitchy when you push the arrow.
Strongly hypothermic and overheated bows, arrows and tendons also tend to cause trouble at the beginning.
remedy: Do it sensibly again, as you did before and let someone else check and correct you if possible. Treat your bow, string and arrows to a little "wellness" and adjust the standing height correctly. By the way, you can find tips on care at Care and storage of bows, strings and arrows.
You changed something
If you can rule out the above points, then you have to do something about your equipment or yourself changed have, what significant influence on the spine value of your arrows. Even small changes can have "devastating" effects. The following Factors (with the exception of the first point) - in the order of their likelihood - Incidentally, also influence each other - so be careful.
The good news - the solution must be easy to be found, because at least you shoot constant (bad)!
Where are you shooting
For example, have you shot at static targets the last time and now on a 3D course or vice versa? Then it may be that your subconscious is still busy with the previous processes and first has to get used to the new goals. It is much more likely that you are now wrong to your goal are standing.
remedy: Check your position and your imaginary line to the goal.
Your extension length and your anchor point
If you no longer pull out and anchor the same (too far or too little) as you did before, the force transferred to the arrow is no longer correct. The arrow then does not fit, is mathematically too soft or too hard. If you have your Anchor point changed and, for example, not really anchored at all, you are probably with yours Pull hand too far away from your face on the side. The arrow will then inevitably deviate to the left for RH-shooters, and vice versa for LH-shooters. Reasons for this can be: You have other clothes on (thick winter jacket instead of T-shirt), which now hinders you more, you have a new, still unfamiliar one Shooting glove, you take one different attitude e.g. a protective posture because of pain ...
remedy: Check your move-out and anchor and think about your clothes.
The standing height
You still use the "old" tendon, but the one Stand height is a different one, than the ones you've shot successfully so far. That has an impact, albeit a relatively minor one.However, it depends on how great the deviation of the standing height is from the target state. In a nutshell: If the standing height is not correct, more or less energy is transferred from the bow via the tendon to the arrow.
Remedy: Adjust the stand height to the correct value. Experiment a little - by turning the tendon in and out - if you don't know exactly what height you should stand or ask the HdV.
Your arrows - type, weight, length, nocks, points and fletching
Do you have yours Arrows changed or something on your arrows changed? If so, then no further word is necessary.
remedy: Shoot your original arrows or the arrows in their original state, then you will find out for yourself whether this is your problem. Even other cams (too tight or too loose) can cause massive problems!
The tendon material and thickness
Should you have one new tendon have installed, you also have to keep repeating the Stand height (see above) and adjust if necessary. The tendon always gives way at the beginning until it has stabilized after a few shooting rounds. The temperature also has an influence on the elasticity of a tendon. Therefore, check the standing height from time to time, also in between. You know for sure - by twisting the tendon you shorten it and thus increase the standing height.
Also one String made of a different material or with a different strength (different number of strands) than you have shot them up to now has a significantly different influence on the dynamic spine and thus on the arrow flight.
remedy: If the new string is really identical to the old one, then experiment with the standing height. If the tendon is different, you may be able to achieve a better result to some extent by changing the stance. Otherwise you will have to dispose of them or manipulate your arrows accordingly.
Your bow as such / bow change
Did you change the bow? Then you need not be surprised. This means that your arrows do not match the "new" bow either. Not even if it were exactly the same according to the manufacturer.
remedy: Take the old bow again, if possible and check whether your shooting result is the same as the old one.
Glasses / contact lenses
Do you wear glasses or contacts while shooting? If so, has that changed? Different strengths, varifocals instead of glasses with fixed strengths, glasses instead of contact lenses or vice versa? Just a second pair of glasses?
remedy: Try to shoot with the old visual aid and read our article Eyes and handedness in archery
The draw weight of your bow
It is not common for a beginner to use tuning tricks that affect the draw weight of the bow. Only the one Replacement of limbs with take-down recurves naturally leads to a "different bow" and thus the arrows no longer fit.
remedy: Try to mount the "old" limbs ".
Bow quiver (assembled / disassembled)
If you have installed a bow quiver in the meantime or dismantled an existing one, you have changed the weight of your bow, the elasticity of the limbs and thus the performance. Certainly a rarely occurring topic.
remedy: Restore the original state.
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